Atheists, how do you explain “the incorruptibles”?
Specimens of preserved human bodies or "mummies" have been discovered throughout the centuries, some even from before the Egyptian Pharaoh times when the art of embalming originated. Many of these preserved bodies have survived decomposition for as many as 3000 years. Of all preserved bodies that have been discovered over the centuries, each fall into one of three categories:
1. Accidentally preserved – These type of preserved bodies were determined to be naturally preserved due to accidental means such as having been buried in dry, hot sand, or lava, or having been placed in an area with high radioactivity. As long as air or moisture did not reach these bodies, they can many times be preserved from significant, but not total decay. However, when accidentally preserved bodies are discovered, they are typically discolored, wrinkled, distorted, are skeletal looking and have no elasticity. In addition they always have a bad odor and always decay rapidly once bandaging is removed for scientific examination.
2. Deliberately preserved – Deliberately preserved corpses are those that were purposely embalmed or otherwise treated before burial with the intention of trying to naturally prevent decomposition. As long as air or moisture did not reach these bodies, they can many times be preserved from significant, but not total decay. In most older cases of deliberately preserved human bodies discovered, the body cavities were filled with specific materials like resin or resin-soaked sawdust, or the entire body was submerged in specific materials such as honey, rum, or sand. In more modern methods of attempting to prevent corpse decomposition, the body was typically submerged or filled with resin, tar, salt, alcohol, or a combination of these. Again, when deliberately preserved bodies are discovered, like accidentally preserved bodies, they are typically discolored, wrinkled, distorted, are skeletal looking and have no elasticity. In addition they always have a bad odor and always decay rapidly once bandaging is removed for scientific examination.
3. Incorruptibles – These type of preserved bodies started being discovered back in the early centuries after Christ, though surprisingly, they do not fall into either the accidental or deliberate preservation categories above. The causes for "incorruptibles" remaining free of decomposition have baffled scientists to this day. These bodies are discovered in many different environments, including environments that would typically cause an accidental or deliberately preserved corpse to decompose rapidly. They remain free of decay regardless of manner of burial, delay in burial, temperature, moisture, rough handling, frequent transference, having been covered in quicklime (a decaying agent), or proximity to other decaying corpses. They cannot be explained by science or reason. Some common characteristics of an incorrupt body:
bulletIncorruptibles are typically found lifelike, moist, flexible, and contain a sweet scent that many say smells like roses or other flowers, for years after death.
bulletIncorruptibles are almost never embalmed or treated in any way due to the religious order's beliefs that the person came from.
bulletIncorruptibles remain free of decay, some for centuries, despite circumstances which normally cause decay such as being exposed to air, moisture, other decaying bodies, or other variables such as quicklime, which is typically applied to a corpse to accelerate decomposition.
bulletIncorruptibles many times contain clear, flowing oils, perspiration, and flowing blood for years after death, where accidental or deliberately preserved bodies have never been recorded to have such characteristics.
bulletOther partial incorruptibles have been found throughout the centuries where certain parts of the body decay normally, while other parts such as the heart or tongue remain perfectly free of decomposition.
What is most astounding of all is the fact that for each incorrupt body discovered, after research has been done to determine who the person was, it has ALWAYS been determined that the person was an extremely devout Christian. This inevitably leads to the question, How can the process of decay, which has no intelligence, choose which bodies to devour and not to devour, and why do they happen to be devout Christians?
Examples:
http://www.fisheaters.com/relics.html
Scroll down to the pictures.
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Jeez, man: you've convinced me; it's quite obvious to all that …
GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT, GODDIDIT.
Hail Mary.
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give some examples
All are dried up naturally and wear wax masks over hands and face (visible parts)
Google it
OMG that clinches it. I will convert to christianity immediately.
How can there be Christians before the ancient Egyptians?
Ancient Egyptians were Christians? I find that hard to believe considering they were around long before Christ was. "Christians" weren't around until at least after Christ's birth (simple logic here) before that it was just Jews.
I'm not an archaeologist, I haven't studied the remains, but just because something cannot be explained doesnt mean "Goddidit." Is there a prophecy in the bible somewhere that says some ancient egyptian remains will be naturally preserved and smell like flowers? I think I missed that one…
(Not an Atheist but not actually religous)
Wow….that's really weird/cool
Geez! You have gone to a lot of trouble writing all of that. Is this a copy/paste from somewhere or did you do it all by yourself?
I do not have the patience to read all of that but it seems you may be implying some form of supernatural phenomena and that "GODDIDIT".
The existence of an unsolved problem in physics is not evidence for a supernatural explanation any more then the existence of an unsolved crime is evidence that a ghost committed it.
I think that someone might be pulling your leg; however all things are possible through God.
are you a troll? or just dumb?
1 back in ancient Egypt the people thought that the Pharaohs were Gods, so they preserved their bodies when the Pharaohs would need them in the after-world
2 when have they ever been proven to be devout Christians?
I just spent good time preparing a sensible answer as to why you are so incredibly wrong and then I realised it wouldn't matter what I wrote – you will believe what you want to. So I've deleted it and started again.
Intelligent debate is not going to make you see the utter fallacy in what you have just said.
Perhaps, if you are interested in truth over an urban legend, read this page and use it as a starting point to being a bit more skeptical about things you hear.
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4126
Do more research. They aren't as incorruptible as the web site you pasted from would have you believe.
The catholic church has a long and rich history of using petty little magic tricks to keep their parishioners in line, stuff so dirty you would never THINK a church would have thought of it. I wouldn't be surprised if they were digging up fresh corpses, dousing them with perfume and calling them saints
i explain it as preservation, which can and does happen
it doesnt choose, it is purely dependant on many factors, the air, humidity, surroundings, materials used etc etc, as you know
just cos we cant figure it out doesnt mean god did it
"Many of these preserved bodies have survived decomposition for as many as 3000 years"
christianty is only 2000 years old,clearly soemopne has made a mistake about the mummies real identitys, or told you a bit of a fib
"some even from before the Egyptian Pharaoh times when the art of embalming originated"
yes, i know this,ancient egypticans are not the only ones to want to preserve bodies after death
but , again they are not christian, they have nothing to do with christianty, as you have been told, christianty is onyl 2000 years old
none of the bodies in those pics are over 500 years old, they have nothing to do with ancient egypt
I don't see how this at all relates to Christianity. According to the bible, when you die you'll live in heaven as a spirit. (No need for a body)
From the atheistic standpoint you have no soul, so when you die you have no need for a body.
The culture that seems to benefit from this most would be the Egyptians.
It's easy to say God did it, but then which God? I don't know if these Incorruptibles are legitimate? If they are then scientist will eventually find the answer if they don't already know. There are plenty of questions that we just don't know the answer to and that is okay. You have a choice now. You can try to find a legitimate answer which is hard sometimes or you can take the easy road and say God did it which translates to I don't want to think about it. Either way is fine, it just depends on what you're in the mood for.